Q. As such, what are your duties?
A. I make up trains and see that they go out properly.
Q. Were you on duty on the 19th of July last?
A. Yes.
Q. You may go on and give a statement of what occurred, beginning with Thursday morning?
A. On the morning of the 19th of July I was in the western part of the yard. I saw that the train did not move at the proper time, and went to the middle of the yard, at Twenty-sixth street, to ascertain why it did not go. The yard dispatcher there and assistant train master told me that some of the men had refused to go out. I and Mr. Hunter, then yard dispatcher, went to the men and asked them if they would go out, and all that we would go to, said they would not go out on the double-headers.
Q. About how many men did you see?
A. All that we could find. We went into the caboose cars.
Q. All refused to go out on the double-headers?
A. Yes; except the first train. The conductor was willing to go out, but not the crew.