By Senator Yutzy:
Q. Were you in the vicinity of the crossing of Twenty-eighth street and the railroad, the scene of the riot, on Saturday?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. At the time the military arrived there?
A. I was not there the time the military arrived there. I was there about an hour before they arrived. I was talking with Captain Breck. He had two six-pounder guns, and I told him they were not of much use. He ought to have Gatling guns. He said the Philadelphia troops did have a pair of them. I waited until my patience was exhausted, and I came home.
Q. Did you see any of the movements of the military in that vicinity, or while you were there?
A. They made no movement while I was there. They simply remained stationary where they were. There were some on the hill side with their arms all stacked.
Q. None at the crossing of the railroad, were there?
A. I am not positive about that. At any rate, I did not keep account of them. They could get across the track very readily, for I went across. I do not think there were any there. I think they were mostly on the hill, and those had their guns stacked, but they were down at the crossing and on Twenty-eighth street, talking with the people, about the same as though they were going to have a party.
Q. That is, the soldiers were away from their command?