Q. Did you know anything about the organization of the Trainmen's Union?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. For what class of employés was that organized?
A. Brakesmen and firemen.
Q. Conductors?
A. Conductors.
Q. Engineers, too?
A. Engineers, I think.
Q. What was the purpose and object of that union?
A. Indeed, I could not say.