Q. Do you know of an alderman that was with them, from the south side?
A. After I had left Bown's store, a company happened on Fifth street. I saw a gang of two or three hundred, and I saw an alderman with them.
Q. Anybody else you know?
A. Yes, sir.
Q. Who?
A. A councilman.
Q. Did they appear to be leading this crowd?
A. The councilman did. The alderman did not seem to take much part in it. The councilman seemed to be at the head of it.
Q. What day was this?
A. Saturday night.