A. Yes; but it is not necessary that a man should be a non-union man to be a scab. What I call a scab is a man that will take an oath and go back on that oath—perjure himself.
By Senator Yutzy:
Q. You mean belong to a union and go back on the order?
A. Yes; but I say it is not necessary that a man should belong to a union. I mean a man that will turn around and work for less money.
By Mr. Lindsey:
Q. Do I understand you to say that you were willing to let trains go out if they could get the men to run them?
A. Yes; I stated that distinctly, and others there heard it.
Q. Was any attempt made to start trains?
A. They called on every man on the road, and every man refused to go out.
Q. Did you or the party with you interfere with trains going out in any way?