A. I couldn't tell. Although I formerly worked on the railroad, I didn't see a man there that I was acquainted with.
Q. Was it the rioters that were talking about the burning?
A. At that time you couldn't tell who was rioters. They stood around in crowds of four, or five, or a dozen. The only active rioters I noticed was when the way passenger came in I seen probably five or six men that looked liked brakesmen on the road run up to uncouple the engines, and the engineer, Tom Wilson, told them that the car behind him had one horse in, and asked them to let him take it on through—there was no ammunition, or provision, or anything of that kind. I listened to some of the arguments whether they would side-track the freight car or allow it to go through, and they finally told Wilson to back and they took the train into the Union depot.
Q. Mow long did you remain there?
A. I was in the vicinity of the crossing probably ten minutes—not long. The train moved down, and I started to go towards my home.
Q. What time did you get home?
A. I came down Penn street with this Mr. Steen, son-in-law of Mr. Bown's, and we heard of the trouble at Mr. Bown's hardware store, and we stopped there for a few minutes—we stopped there probably three quarters of an hour. I don't recollect, positively, how long, but when I left there I got over in Allegheny, and in time to make the late train, and got down to the Ninth ward. The train, at that time, left Allegheny sometime after eleven o'clock.
Q. When you got to Bown's store, had the rabble been in and ransacked things?
A. They had been in and ransacked things and had gone off. They had apparently taken things that were of no account at all, so far as the riot was concerned.
Q. Were there any rioters still around the store?