By Mr. Means:
Q. I want to know if those troops left their arms stacked while the crowd was still accumulating?
A. The crowd was in and about there. Do you mean whether or not the crowd could have taken possession of any of those arms without interference?
Q. No; but whether while the crowd was still accumulating the troops had their arms stacked?
A. The crowd was accumulating, and continued accumulating up to the time of the firing.
Q. And the arms were still stacked?
A. Yes, sir; while I was there.
By Mr. Lindsey:
Q. That is Friday evening?
A. No; Saturday morning. Mr. Pitcairn, and Mr. Cassett, and General Pearson, and other officers were at the Union depot. I remained at Twenty-sixth street, awaiting any instruction that might be sent me. I was advised by Mr. Pitcairn to hold myself in readiness to move some trains on Saturday afternoon—that the sheriff and posse were coming up the track, and that they would be followed by the troops, and that he expected that the crowd would be dispersed, and that we would be furnished a sufficient guard to place upon each one of those trains to move them out beyond Torrens, or to any other point where we might expect trouble. I waited, and met them as they came up. They were followed by quite a large concourse of persons. The troops held the track about opposite Twenty-fifth street, and there the Second brigade of the Philadelphia troops was left. I do not now remember the name of the general in command. However I was left with him. The First brigade moved on to Twenty-eighth street. This Second brigade threw out a skirmish line across the entire yard, with instructions from the general to drive back everybody. It was General Loud. He threw out a skirmish line and drove all parties west a sufficient distance for us to couple together all our cars and to make up our trains to go out.