Q. I want to get at the reasons that actuated you?
A. I didn't know anything of the nature of that crowd. I knew nothing more at the time than that Mr. Watt wanted ten men, and ten men was sufficient to control it. That was sufficient. They were there, and there was only one breach of the peace, and that man was arrested, and when this train, between three and four o'clock, undertook to be run out, it could have been run out.
Q. Did the crowd intimidate the engineer in any way, do you know?
A. I understood the police that he was not intimidated—that he could have gone out with the train, if he thought proper. They were there to protect him in so doing. They told me he could have gone out, if he had chosen. I don't know who he is, anything about him. I guess it was the last effort made to run a train out.
By Senator Yutzy:
Q. Did you consider at any time until the military arrived that the crowd that assembled there was an illegal crowd?
A. Oh, no; I didn't think it amounted to shucks.
Q. You consider there was no riot or mob nor illegal assemblage at any time before the military arrived?
A. I knew that there were men in a crowd.
Q. Answer that question now. You consider there was no illegal assemblage, mob, or riot previous to the arrival of the military?