Q. What did he say; can you remember? A. Yes, I can recollect some of what he said. He said that he didn’t want to leave this country here; that he knew no other country than this; that he didn’t want to leave here; and that he had given up Lost river; and he asked for Cottonwood and Willow Creek; that is over near Fairchild’s.
Q. Is Cottonwood Creek the same as Hot Creek? A. They are two different creeks.
Q. What did he mean by giving up Lost river? A. He said there was where the fight had taken place; and that he didn’t want to have anything more to do there. He said he thought that was what the fight took place about,—that country there; he said the whites wanted it.
Q. What fight do you refer to? A. The first fight, where Major Jackson went down to bring them down on the Reservation; that was in November, 1872.
Q. Did Captain Jack demand Willow Creek and Cottonwood Creek? A. Yes, sir.
Q. That is, the land around this place? A. Yes.
Q. To live on? A. Yes, sir; he wanted a reservation there.
Q. Then what was said, or what occurred? A. Mr. Meacham, then he made another speech, and he told Captain Jack: “Jack, let us talk like men, and not like children,” and he sort of hit him on the knee or shoulder,—probably hit him on the shoulder once or twice, or tapped him,—he said, “Let us talk like men, and not talk like children.” He said, “You are a man that has common sense; isn’t there any other place that will do you except Willow Creek and Cottonwood?” And Mr. Meacham was speaking rather loud, and Schonchin told him to hush,—told him in Indian to hush; that he could talk a straight talk; to let him talk. Just as Schonchin said that, Captain Jack rose up and stepped back, sort of in behind Dyer’s horse. I was interpreting for Schonchin, and I was not noticing Jack. He stepped a few steps out to one side, and I seen him put his hand in his bosom like—
Q. (Interrupting). Did you perceive, as soon as you got there, that these men were armed? A. Yes, sir; I did; I could see some of them were.
Q. In what way did you observe that? A. I saw these sticking out of their clothes.