Q. Was that fort in the way, proceeding to Norfolk?
A. Not on the direct way to Hampton Roads, but a little point on the left.
Q. Would a vessel, going the usual way to Norfolk, be in range of the guns that were fired at the Harriet Lane?
A. Not of these; but she would be in the range of four or five forts that it would be necessary to pass in order to land the prisoners at Norfolk.
Q. What was the nearest port to where the Minnesota went with the prisoners?
A. The nearest port of entry was Norfolk. Hampton Roads was a little higher up. We were not anchored exactly at the Roads, but off Old Point, which is not considered Hampton Roads.
[Map produced.] I have marked the position of the Minnesota on this map, in blue ink. [Exhibits the position to the Court.]
Q. State the position of the Minnesota?
A. That is as near as I can put it—between the Rip Raps and Fortress Monroe—a little outside of the Rip Raps.
Q. In what jurisdiction is the Fort?