"I know not; but I appeal to my Mother the Church."[935]
Maître Pierre Maurice, a reader of Terence and Virgil, was filled with pity for this hapless Maid.[936] On the previous day he had declared her to have relapsed because his knowledge of theology forced him to it; and now he was concerned for the salvation of this soul in peril, which could not be saved except by recognising the falseness of its Voices.
"Are they indeed real?" he asked her.
She replied, "Whether they be good or bad, they appeared to me."
She affirmed that with her eyes she had seen, with her ears heard, the Voices and apparitions which had been spoken of at the trial.
She heard them most frequently, she said, at the hour of compline and of matins, when the bells were ringing.[937]
Maître Pierre Maurice, being the Pope's secretary, was debarred from openly professing the Pyrrhonic philosophy. He inclined, however, to a rational interpretation of natural phenomena, if we may judge from his remarking to Jeanne that the ringing of bells often sounded like voices.
Without describing the exact form of her apparitions, Jeanne said they came to her in a great multitude and were very tiny. She believed in them no longer, being fully persuaded that they had deceived her.
Maître Pierre Maurice asked about the Angel who had brought the crown.
She replied that there had never been a crown save that promised by her to her King, and that the Angel was herself.[938]