Did you after this put any question to Mr. Patrick, whether he, Mr. Patrick, thought that Mr. Church was implicated in the transaction or not? Did you put any such question to him?
Lord Ellenborough.—Did you use those words, or words to the same effect?—No, I did not I put these words to him—“Why,” says I, “you did nothing! Did Mr. Church acknowledge nothing to you?” “No, Sir,” says he, “he did not.” Then he said Mr. Church had not mentioned a word about it.
Did you make any observation to him, or he to you?—I don’t recollect any thing in particular. I said, says I, “As you can bring nothing against him, let us pray for him, and if he had the least idea of such a thing; and as you say you cannot bring any thing home to him, and can’t prove any thing, that is all we can do. Let us pray that he may not be guilty of such sin.”
Lord Ellenborough.—Did you say, pray for him, if he was under any such temptation?—Yes; pray for him, if was under any such temptation.
The Common Serjeant.—Did Mr. Patrick after that deliver any opinion to you whether he thought Church was implicated in the transaction or not?—No, he did not.
Did you at any other time see him, and hear him say any thing about this transaction?—No.
Did any thing more pass at this meeting than what you have told us? No.—Yes, Sir. I ask pardon: I met him in June last, coming over Waterloo-bridge. I did not at first know him; and he spoke to me, and he said, “My name is Patrick.” I said, “Mr. Patrick, why what are you doing with Mr. Church?” “Why,” says I, “I hear you have brought something else against him: what is that?”
Lord Ellenborough.—There is no contradiction of Mr. Patrick in this. He was not asked to this (continuation of the answer). “Why,” says he, “Sir, I should not have done it, but that Mr. Church has spoken more disrespectful things respecting Mrs. Patrick.” He said he should not have done it, but that Mr. Church had said many disrespectful things of Mrs. Patrick.
Cross-examined by Mr. Marryatt.
Was it the Sabbath after the 27th of September that you first heard of this?—I believe it was. It was within two or three days after.