Mr. Collins: Well, it seemed so to me. I could not exactly state how long. When I came to the surface I saw this boat that had been taken off. I saw a man on it. They had been working on it taking it off the saloon deck, and when the wave washed it off the deck, they clung to it. Then I made for it when I came to the surface, swimming for it. I was only four or five yards off of it. I am sure there were more than fifteen or sixteen who were then on it. They did not help me to get on. They were all watching the ship. All I had to do was to give a spring and I got on to it. We were drifting about for two hours in the water.
Senator Bourne: When you came up from the water on this collapsible boat, did you see any evidence of the ship as she sank then?
Mr. Collins: I did, sir; I saw her stern end.
Senator Bourne: Where were you on the boat at the time you were washed off the ship?
Mr. Collins: Amidships, sir.
Senator Bourne: You say you saw the stern end after you got on the collapsible boat?
Senator Bourne: Did you see the bow?
Mr. Collins: No, sir.
Senator Bourne: How far were you from the stern end of the ship when you came up and got on to the collapsible boat?