Pascoe. Yes.

Carve. About how famous should you say he is?

Pascoe. (Hesitating.) Well—(abruptly) that's a silly question.

Carve. No, it isn't. Is he as famous as—er—Harry Lauder?

Pascoe. (Shakes his head.) You mustn't go to extremes.

Carve. Is he as famous as Harry Vardon?

Pascoe. Never heard of him.

Carve. I only see these names in the papers. Is he as famous as Bernard Shaw?

Pascoe. Yes, I should say he was.

Carve. Oh, well that's not so bad. Better than I thought! It's so difficult to judge where one is—er—personally concerned. Especially if you're never on the spot.