“How did you start when you went out?”
“I think that Mr. McCaleb and I were in the lead and Mr. Thaw and Mr. Beale followed.”
“How far had you gone when something happened?”
“Almost to the elevator. I had turned around to speak to Mr. Thaw.”
“How far were you from Mr. White then?”
“About as far as the end of the jury box.”
“You saw Mr. White sitting there?”
“I did.”
“Did you see Mr. Thaw then?”
“Not until a minute or so afterward. He was directly in front of Mr. White, standing with his arm up in the air.”