Secundianus said; ‘Forasmuch as Christ is called the Son of God,I call the Son of God very Son[36]; but that He is very God is not written.’

71. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; ‘Have you not yet recovered your senses?’ And he added; ‘Lest it should appear that he has been unfairly treated, let him state his opinion. Let him then say that Christ the only-begotten Son of God is very God.’

Secundianus said; ‘I have already said. What more would you wring from me?’

Ambrose, Bishop, said; ‘What have you said? certainly if you had said so great truths, what is said gloriously, may well be often repeated.’

Secundianus said; ‘It is written, S. Matt. v. 37. Let your conversation be yea, yea, nay, nay.’

72. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; ‘He who says that the Father Himself is the Son, is sacrilegious. This I ask of you that you would say that the Son of God is begotten very God of very God.’

Secundianus said; ‘I say that the Son is begotten of God, as He says Himself Heb. i. 5. I have begotten Thee, and that He confesses Himself to be begotten.’

73. AMBROSE, Bishop, said; ‘Is He very God of very God?’

Secundianus said; ‘When you add to the Name and call Him very [God], do you understand what the character of your own faith is, and are you a Christian?’

Eusebius, Bishop, said; ‘Who has denied that He is very God? Arius and Palladius have denied it. If you believe Him to be very God, you should simply express it.’