"He was an old-timer; they call him Dad."
"What do you mean by an 'old-timer'?"
"An old-time thief--an ex-convict."
"Very well. Now tell the jury what you did--if anything."
"Well, I knowed Koerner was just back from the pen, and we got to talking."
"What did he say?"
"Oh, I don't just remember. We chewed the rag a little."
Eades scowled and hitched up his chair.
"Did he say anything about Kouka?"
"Hold on!" Marriott shouted. "We object! You know perfectly well you can't lead the witness."