A. It includes transportation, and maintenance and new construction. It handles the business the other fellow gets.
Q. Who is the other fellow?
A. The traffic department.
Q. Of another company?
A. Why, no, of our own. It is just another department. It deals with the public, it gets the business, it makes the rates; excuse me—it recommends rates to honorable bodies like this commission.
Q. Then you in the operating department don't deal with the public?
A. Yes, sir, we do, more and more every year.
Q. Is the traveling freight agent in your department?
A. No, sir, he is in the traffic department.
Q. Then you have no control over him?