Mr. President, the payment of the national debt is an American idea, and I would say nothing to weaken it among the people. Whatever we owe must be paid; but it is the part of prudence to make the payment in such way as, while consistent with our obligations, shall promote the national prosperity. In this spirit I approach the proposition of the Committee, in which there is so much of good, only to examine and measure it, in order to ascertain its probable influence, especially on the question of Taxation.
Here it must be borne in mind, that the present measure in all its parts, so far as applicable, and especially with its guaranties and pledges, must be taken as the basis of our new engagements. The provision that so much of the debt shall be paid annually will become in a certain sense a part of the contract, although not so expressed in the bond. Not less than $150,000,000 are set apart annually to be applied “to the payment of the interest and to the reduction of the principal of the public debt.” This is a large sum, and we should consider carefully if such a guaranty or pledge has in it the promise of financial stability. Promising too much is sometimes as bad as promising too little. Our promise must be according to our means prudently employed.
If we assume obligations so large as to bear heavily upon the business of the country and to compel unreasonable taxation, there will be little chance of financial stability. They will become the object of attack, and will enter into the conflict of parties,—and if repealed, the national faith may be called in question. I need not say that business must suffer. A less ambitious effort on our part will be less obnoxious to attack,—thus leaving the bonds to their natural position in the money market, and strengthening all the movements of commerce.
In order to determine the operation of this provision we must look into details. I have the estimates before me, showing our present and prospective liabilities for interest; but I content myself with presenting compendiously the result, in order to determine the question of taxation. Suffice it to say, that under the operation of the present measure there will be in 1871, after the payment of all liabilities for interest, a surplus of $43,000,000 to be applied to the payment of the national debt. With each succeeding year the reduction of interest will rapidly increase this surplus; and when we bring into operation other provisions of the bill, and convert $500,000,000 of sixes into a like amount of four and a half per cents., effecting a further saving of interest, equal to $7,500,000 annually, the surplus revenue, as compared with necessary expenditures, will in a brief period approach $100,000,000 annually.
Here the question arises, Is not this unnecessarily large? Is it not beyond the bounds of prudence and wise economy? Shall we declare in this fundamental measure a determination to redeem the whole national debt within a period of twenty-five years? Can the industries of the country sustain such taxation? I put the question. You shall answer it. The future has its great claims upon us; so also has the present. I submit that the pending measure sacrifices the present. I conclude, therefore, as I began, with another appeal for reduced taxation. At the proper time I shall move an amendment, in order to aid this result.
In the course of the proceedings which followed, the bill of the Committee underwent important amendments, in accordance with the views expressed by Mr. Sumner,—for the Ten-Twenties and Fifteen-Thirties therein proposed, a prolongation to Ten-Forties and Fifteen-Forties being effected,—and the provision for the payment of interest at the money-centres and in the moneys of Europe stricken out. Some of its more objectionable features being thus removed, he gave it a qualified support.
March 10th, the question being on striking out a provision in the bill of the Committee requiring the national banks to exchange the bonds of the United States deposited by them as security for their circulation for those bearing a lower rate of interest, Mr. Sumner said:—
Mr. President,—There is a word which has been introduced into this debate with which we were all very familiar in another relation some years ago. It is the word Coercion. A President of the United States announced in most formal phrase that we could not coerce a State; and now, borrowing a phrase from Mr. Buchanan, we are told we cannot coerce a national bank. Well, Sir, is the phrase applicable? If it be applicable, then I insist that we can coerce a national bank; but I do not admit its applicability. What I insist on has already been so ably and clearly stated by the Chairman of the Committee [Mr. Sherman] that perhaps I need not add another word. I do not like to occupy your time; yet I cannot forbear reminding you, Sir, of the plenary power which Congress has reserved over the banking system in that very Act by which it was established.[224]