Mr James Bonar said—If we find that if the last election had not interveened, the first had beene good; and if the first had not proceedit, the last had bein good. The first wants ane act of the Presbitrie and their Subscription, and so it wants the formall poynt but gives commission; and the uther hath proceedit from ane desyre to be electit.
The Moderatour said—It were les prejudice to want the voices of them both, then to doe any thing that may prejudge the Assembly afterward.
After lang controversie to and fro about this particular, the rows were called, and the Assembly voited that neither of them should have voite.
Sess. 11.—3 Decʳ 1638.
After prayer made by the Moderatour,
My Lord Argyle said—Ye remember heir I made protestation that nothing might be done that might seeme to wrong Soveraigne auctoritie; for albeit I be not a Member of this Assembly, yet I have leive to represent my opinion; and truelie I will say, I know no better way for you then every way to cary yourselves modestlie, keeping all dutie and respect to whom it is due. And I remember of a good passadge—si tacitus possit corvus, &c.—therefore my humble desyre to you all, and especiallie to the Ministerie, is, that ye be very spairing to meddle with the Kings power and auctoritie—not that I suspect any, but that I hope all knowes what is my meaning. They are wise I hope who are entrusted in this worke, and knowes what is their duetie to a good and graceous King; and I trust our Master will be wise in his commands, and so there will be the lesse neid to meddle with any thing of this kind; therefore take this advertisement from me, least any sclander be layd on this bussines. I am very spairing to insist; but what I have said it is out of affection to the caus.
Moderatour said—We are obleist to the goodnes and providence of our God that hes given unto us so wise and honourable a Member to sitt heir to give tymous advertisement concerning our duetie—perhaps rather to prevent that which might ensue nor to censure any thing that is done; and surelie we ought to consider, that, altho’ the Kirk of Christ, especiallie assembled in ane counsell and such ane Assembly as this, hath very great power, yet they should very weill observe the limits of their power; for, first, altho’ we have power to judge betwixt true and false doctrine—altho’ we have power also to consider the mater of the Sacraments—the sealles of the doctrine of the life and manners of men throughout the kingdome, and of the maters of the Policie of the Government of the Kirke—yet our power is not autocratistical but ministerial and subordinat, and ought to give the Lord his owne soveraignitie annexed to him, and to give every one their owne place. Let the Lord have the first place—we will not give his glorie to another; and let Cæsars have their owne places. And surelie he thocht I spack very distinctlie of this purpose that said—“God or his Spirit, speaking in Scripture, is the judge, and that the Kirk is not judge but index, and that the Christian Magistral is Vindex; and so give every one his owne place.” The judgement of Soveraigntie and absolute jurisdiction belongs to God; and this is that great Soveraigntie which must keepe us in the right way, without the which our sillie witts would wander in the bypaths of errour. Since it hath pleased Him to manifest his will in his word as if he were among us and we heare his voyce, we should stryve to decerne his voyce, and governe our proceedings thereby. Next for the Magistrat—he is the keeper of both the Tables, and ane avenger of the breakers of both; and we are not to judge so uncharitablie and so unreverentlie of our superiors, especiallie of him who is in the highest place above us, that he will usurpe any thing propper to the Lord, who is only absolute Soveraigne. It becomes us to content ourselves with the interpretation of Scripture, or with the indications of it as that word which I alreadie used imports; and for that which my noble Lord hes bein speaking, it becomes us to think reverentlie and speake modestlie of superior powers; and I am sure there is no subject but they will be more carefull to take heid to their words and wayes both in pulpits and other places, nor if the Kings Majestie were present himselfe. I remember of ane example of ane worthie man in this Kirk who did oftentymes preach in the presence of King James; and when the King was absent he alwayes spacke with greater reverence, and recommended subjectione and loyaltie to all subjects; but when he was present, he told him all that he heard of him; and I wish all of us would carry us so; and altho’ his place or his Commission be emptie, let us thinke and speake as if one of them were into it: let us carry ourselves as in the sight of God and of our Consciences which are both ane; for seeking the approbation of a good Conscience we approve ourselves to God, and next in his Majesties sight; and we need not thinke that the wordes that are spoken heir will [not] be caried to him with a worse sense put on it. If his Majesties Commissioner wer heir present there neidit no report; but since it comes to passe that things are made worse, we have so much the more to take heid to ourselves: and I hope of the Spirite of Wisdome and Pietie, which teaches all loyaltie and subjection to superiour powers, shall so direct us as there shall be no caus to censure any man justlie.
You remember, right reverend and weil-beloved, there ware some thing spoken heir be occasions of a particular complaint given in against Mr David Mitchell, for mentaining poynts of Arminianisme; and we desyred ane of our reverend brethren to speak somewhat for refutation of that errour.
[Arminianism discussed.]
Then Mr David [Dick] raise and spack as followes:—The taske is large, the tyme is short; therefore I will sett myselff to as little tyme as I can; only I would have this preface in the beginning, that we would all labour to have errours in als great detestation as any corporall vyce; and doubtlesse, if our eyes were open to see the bewtie of trueth and the good fruites of it, and to see the vyldnes of errours, and the fearfull consequences of it, we would need no exhortatioun of this sort. For the preaching of errour is like the selling of poysoned pestied bread, that slays the eater of it, and infects with the breath every man that comes neir hand; and albeit the Lord hath brought in wholesome food in his house, and hes held his table long covered, yet the malice of Sathan, and the bussines of the Pope to recover his Kingdome, and the dalliance of worldlie men, hes sett instruments on foot to trouble our Church againe; and God, in his deep wisdome and justice, hes suffered the matter to goe that farr on, that we might see what a fearfull sin it was to put the keyes of the house of God in wrong hands, and what evil freicks, errours in discipline would bring foorth, and also that he might punische the unsanctified and proud witts of men that would take upon them to governe his Kirk, as also he would have these ministers in this land corrected for their negligence who are like the rest of the countrie, who thinkes of armes whilst they are in peace. So have we done. In tyme of peace, we were all secure, and dreamed not of straites, and studied for no more but to get ane sermone in the week; yet blessed be our God, who hes alse many painfull and faithfull servands as will be sufficient to cleare his trueth of his Kirk against all that will say the contrair.