Moïse. “Because we see it.”

Spook. “Quite so. Again, say something, Moïse.” (Moïse spoke.) “You are talking now, now, now, are you not?”

Moïse. “Yes, I am.”

Spook. “How do the mediums know?”

Moïse. “Because they hear me.”

Spook. “Because you see and hear a thing you say it is happening in the present. Is it not so?”

Moïse. “Yes. It is so.”

Spook. “If you saw one star collide with another star you would say, ‘Look, that star is at present colliding with that other star’; is that so?”

Moïse. “Yes, I would.”

Spook. “Then do you think you would be talking sense?”