Mr. Chesterton: But you are the person who has worked out the whole scheme against Jasper. Does not the whole case for the death, not for the plan or the undertaking, but for the death having taken place, rest on the finding of that ring?

Witness: Well, perhaps the case for incriminating, bringing it home to Jasper, rests on the ring.

Mr. Chesterton: And if that ring—the presence of that ring—could be satisfactorily explained—the presence of the ring in the quicklime could be satisfactorily explained in any other way—you would have nothing to produce to show that it was a murder?

Witness: I might have no evidence, but I should be morally certain.

Mr. Chesterton: You would hold your opinion, we know, but you would have no evidence?

Witness: No.

Judge: I think we must be careful not to get into argument.

Mr. Chesterton: My Lord, I am finishing.

Witness: What you and I think is evidence might be two different questions.

Judge: That is indeed very probable.