"Would it not be preferable for the greater glory and security of the Catholic Church that royalty were abolished?"
"That would be preferable."
"How are Kings to be absolutely subordinated to the Popes? Or, rather, how is royalty to be destroyed?"
"By causing all its subjects to rise against it."
"By unchaining the passions of an ignorant populace; by exploiting the old commune spirit of the bourgeoisie; by fanning the hatred of the seigneurs, once the peers of Kings in feudal days; by setting the people against one another."
"Is there a last resort for the riddance of Kings?"
"The dagger, or poison."
"Do you understand by that that a member of the Church may and has the right to stab a King; may and has the right to poison a King?"
"Master, it is not the part of a monk to kill a King, whether openly or covertly. The King should first be paternally admonished, then excommunicated, then declared forfeit of royal authority. After that his execution falls to others."[12]