"I am a woman. I love ornaments. I accuse myself."
"'My daughter,' I would answer, 'if you ornament yourself without impure intentions, and only in order to satisfy your natural taste for ornamentation, you do not sin.'"[32]
"I accuse myself of having seduced the wife of my best friend."
"'My son,' I would answer, 'let us distinguish: If you treacherously seduced the woman just because she was the wife of your best friend, then you have sinned. But if you seduced her, as you might have done any other woman, you have not outraged friendship.[33] It is a natural thing to desire the possession of a handsome woman. You have not sinned. There is no occasion for absolution.'"
"Well done!" exclaimed Loyola. "But I notice you grant absolution for all that human morality and the Fathers of the Church condemn."
"Master, you said: 'Absolved penitents will never complain.'"
"What is the object of the complaisance of your doctrines in all circumstances?"
"At this season an incurable corruption reigns among mankind. Rigor would estrange them from us. Our tolerance for their vices is calculated to deliver the penitents to us, body and soul. By leaving to us the direction of their souls, this corrupt generation will later relinquish to us the absolute education of their children. We will then raise those generations as may be suitable, by taking them in charge from the cradle to the grave; by molding them; by petrifying them in such manner that, their appetites being satisfied, and their minds for all time delivered from the temptation of those three infernal rebels—Reason, Dignity and Freedom—those generations will bless their sweet servitude, and will be to us, master, what we are to you—servile slaves, body and soul, mere corpses!"
"Among the obstacles that our work will, or may encounter, you mentioned the papacy."
"Yes, master, because the elections of the sacred college may call to the pontifical throne Popes that are weak, stupid or vicious."