The Commission is examining Mr. McCabe, freight traffic manager of the Pennsylvania lines west of Pittsburg.

“Commissioner Clements. Are you in the habit of destroying records not a year old?

“Mr. McCabe. Sometimes.

“Commissioner Clements. But generally?

“Mr. McCabe. If they are not essential or it is not important that they should be kept.

“Commissioner Clements. What would be the particular reason for destroying these papers and records?

“Mr. McCabe. Possibly because we thought you might want them laid before you sometime.

“Commissioner Clements. You destroyed the evidence of the illegal transaction?

“Mr. McCabe. Yes, sir, that is right.”[[360]]

The general traffic manager of the Michigan Central said that papers relating to refunds, etc., “were destroyed because their usefulness for our purposes had gone and passed.”