“How?”

“The army wants a leader.”

“Well?”

“Your defeat of the Mahdi, the organization of a big Soudanese army would point to you as the man. Arabi Pasha would help you.”

“You think I might be commander of the Egyptian army?”

“Greater than that.”

“How so?”

“The army could make you khedive.”

“And you?”

“You would make me minister of war, and I would get England’s influence, and Egypt should become an independent nation, with you as its first sultan.”