“I’m told it shows up Slavery in very high colours.”
“Yes, sir, it shows the evils of Slavery very strongly.”
He took a chair near me, and said that, if it represented extreme cases as if they were general, it was not fair.
Perceiving that he was disposed to discuss the matter, I said that I was a Northern man, and perhaps not well able to judge; but that I thought that a certain degree of cruelty was necessary to make slave-labour generally profitable, and that not many were disposed to be more severe than they thought necessary. I believed there was little wanton cruelty. He answered, that Northern men were much mistaken in supposing that slaves were generally ill-treated. He was a merchant, but he owned a plantation, and he just wished I could see his negroes. “Why, sir,” he continued, “my niggers’ children all go regularly to a Sunday-school, just the same as my own, and learn verses, and catechism, and hymns. Every one of my grown-up niggers are pious, every one of them, and members of the church. I’ve got an old man that can pray——well, sir, I only wish I had as good a gift at praying! I wish you could just hear him pray. There are cases in which niggers are badly used; but they are not common. There are brutes everywhere. You have men, at the North, who whip their wives—and they kill them sometimes.”
“Certainly, we have, sir; there are plenty of brutes at the North; but our law, you must remember, does not compel women to submit themselves to their power. A wife, cruelly treated, can escape from her husband, and can compel him to give her subsistence, and to cease from doing her harm. A woman could defend herself against her husband’s cruelty, and the law would sustain her.”
“It would not be safe to receive negroes’ testimony against white people; they would be always plotting against their masters, if you did.”
“Wives are not always plotting against their husbands.”
“Husband and wife is a very different thing from master and slave.”
“Your remark, that a bad man might whip his wife, suggested an analogy, sir.”
“If the law was to forbid whipping altogether, the authority of the master would be at an end.”