Kittering seemed uneasy. “Of course, Mr. Carrel,” he said, “I take it that you might have casually mentioned that you were your uncle’s heirs, and were safeguarding his fortune for him.”

“Objected to as leading and suggestive,” Mason said.

“Objection sustained,” Judge Knox said.

Kittering said, “Well, did you discuss indirectly any financial benefit which might have occurred to you?”

“No,” Carrel said.

“Witness excused,” Kittering announced, his voice showing his impatience. “I will call Freeman Leeds to the stand.”

Freeman Leeds, a big, powerful man, whose face had set with age into lines of sullen defiance, took the oath, gave his name and address to the reporter, and took the witness stand.

“You are a brother of the defendant in this case?”

“Yes.”

“Have you at any time discussed with the defendant a person known as Bill Hogarty?”