"How long were you in the bathroom with Ella Gingles before you untied her?"
"Not more than a few minutes."
"Now, about this pink baby ribbon Mr. Short is trying to make out Ella was tied with. Didn't you see me take it out of her nightgown?"
"I don't remember."
"Well, I took it out of her neck-band because she was tearing at herself, didn't I?"
"Oh, I can't tell that."
"Did you see me take the gag off her?"
"It was hanging under her chin when I first saw her, but I don't know who took it off."
"You remember a big crowd of newspaper men being in the room, don't you?"
"Many people were there. I did not know many of them."