—What then?
—Others besides.
—What are they?
—I do not know; there are so many.
—Which are those that you commit by preference? The sins which you have just related to me are infractions of the Church's laws. But the others … you do not know what are the sins which you take pleasure in committing?
—They all give me pleasure. If I sin, it is because it gives me pleasure, is it not? If it did not give me pleasure, I should not sin.
—But, after all, there are pleasures which you love more than others.
—Assuredly. Are not all pleasures sins?
—All those which are not innocent, yes.
—How can I distinguish innocent pleasures from those which are not so?