I am always cold.

Ella Rentheim.

[Stands looking at her for a time with her arms resting on the back of the armchair.] Well, Gunhild, it is nearly eight years now since we saw each other last.

Mrs. Borkman.

[Coldly.] Since last we spoke to each other at any rate.

Ella Rentheim.

True, since we spoke to each other. I daresay you have seen me now and again—when I came on my yearly visit to the bailiff.

Mrs. Borkman.

Once or twice, I have.

Ella Rentheim.