No, no; and other people did not dream of it either.

Mrs. Borkman.

I don’t care about the other people. But it was his duty to tell me the truth. And that he never did! He kept on lying to me—lying abominably——

Ella Rentheim.

[Interrupting.] Surely not, Gunhild. He kept things back perhaps, but I am sure he did not lie.

Mrs. Borkman.

Well, well; call it what you please; it makes no difference. And then it all fell to pieces—the whole thing.

Ella Rentheim.

[To herself.] Yes, everything fell to pieces—for him—and for others.

Mrs. Borkman.