“Mr. Williamson. Well, I take it, from the word “executive,” that it must be Mr. Clarke, and Mrs. Tyler, because they are the two executives of that department. Then the field men—they are the Kleagles—have been paid, in round numbers, $464,000. That would be $5 out of the $10, of which $4 would go to the Kleagle and $1 would go to the King Kleagle. That uses up $5. Then 50 cents goes to the Grand Goblin. And it is all used up but $4.50 and $2 goes to the Klan.

“Mr. Campbell. And all of the $8, then, is used up in paying officers or agents of the Klan?

“Mr. Williamson. That is true.

“Mr. Campbell. How much of the remaining $2 has been spent, if you know, for the benefit of needy people, or for helpful purposes in communities—charitable purposes?

“Mr. Williamson. Well, if you call Mr. Simmons a needy person, then some thousands of dollars have been spent for him. But general charity, I do not think, has received any of it; at least it does not appear on the accounts.

“Mr. Campbell. What is Mr. Simmons’ salary, if you know?

“Mr. Williamson. Mr. Simmons at present gets $1,000 a month. He has been getting that since the first of August.”

When questioned as to the activities of Mrs. Elizabeth Tyler, Mr. Williamson described her as a business woman who was engaged in the work of propagating Ku Kluxism as she would in any other mercantile pursuit, without any altruistic motives whatever. This is brought out in the following colloquy:

“Mr. Campbell. It is purely a business proposition, so far as she is concerned?

“Mr. Williamson. Absolutely.