A: Oh, that was after I retired.
Q: Oh, I see, you retired from the mortuary business...
A: Oh, yeah. I was in the funeral business 33 years.
Q: All the time with Ballard?
A: Oh no, I had my own funeral home over in Las Cruces [N.M.], and one in Socorro [N.M.].
Q: Oh, okay.
Speaking of that, do you know Norman Todd or his family?
A: His dad and I took the state board together. He was at Clovis [N.M.]. Norman’s his son isn’t it?
Q: Yeah. He’s a lawyer over in Las Cruces [N.M.]. His...
A: Wasn’t his dad the funeral director in Clovis [N.M.]?