"Righteous," Mark said. "I want one."
"They're all in collections, now. The guy is famous," Oliver said. "I think that his daughter is carrying on the tradition."
"Must be nice to make something that lasts," Mark said.
"You've got enough money to make things," Oliver said. "You've got an art degree, right?"
"Yeah, I can draw. But there's no money in it."
"Why can't you do both?"
"I try sometimes, but it's hard to get into it. If I make a good drawing or painting, then what—I've got to frame it and beg some gallery owner to sell it for fifty percent of not much? Frig that. It's not like I'm a frustrated genius."
"Just frustrated," Oliver said.
"Look who's talking. Maybe you ought to forget programming and set up a cabinet shop."
"Maybe," Oliver said.