Q. For a 38-caliber gun?

A. Well, my dear man, you know more about a gun than I do. I don't know anything about that. I bought that in that place that is a gun shop and they got all new ware and he told me it was a 38-caliber and I paid $14. Whatever the housing of it was I don't know.

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Hotel Gilpatrick.

Q. You speak of housing—you are familiar with revolvers?

A. You are telling me a 44 casing.

Q. That is what you call a housing?

A. Well, that is what I meant—that is what I understand—casing—unless you mean the box where it was laying in.

Q. No, I am talking about the housing—frame?