Y. He scorns riches.
R. Why does he?
Y. He seeks other riches, the riches of religion, of the mind, of spirit.
R. Did he find them?
Y. I believe he did.
R. He sends you news through Kala Udayin.
Y. No, Rahula, I send Kala Udayin out to watch him and when Kala comes back he tells me what he saw and heard. Kala does not speak to father.
R. Why does Kala not speak to father?
Y. Grandfather forbade him. When we sent out Devadatta and Ananda, they became attached to the life of a hermit. They joined father and did not come back; but Kala will not turn monk.
R. But this time he will speak to father.