[D] If, then, the ruler catches anybody beside himself lying in the State,

‘Any of the craftsmen, whether he be priest or physician or carpenter[15],’

he will punish him for introducing a practice which is equally subversive and destructive of ship or State.

[15] Od. xvii. 383 sq.

Most certainly, he said, if our idea of the State is ever carried out[16].

[16] Or, ‘if his words are accompanied by actions.’

and also temperate. In the next place our youth must be temperate?

Certainly.

Are not the chief elements of temperance, speaking [E]generally, obedience to commanders and self-control in sensual pleasures?

True.