Some say he is white, like the skull of a dead man. And some say he is dark, like the socket of a skeleton's eye.
But haven't you heard any news of him, Leader?
Leader
I don't believe in him at all.
Well, that goes entirely against current opinion. That Old Man is more existent than anything else. He lives within the ribs of creation.
According to our Pundit, it is we who have no existence. You can't be certain whether we are, or are not.
Chandra
We? Oh, we are too brand new altogether. We haven't yet got our credentials to prove that we exist.
Leader
Have you really gone and opened communication with the Pundits?