“That is a cant phrase.”

“No; there’s truth under the cant. Under all the sleek, smooth, canty phrases of ecclesiastic proverb, precept, axiom, and lore, there is truth worth the sifting out.”

“You are welcome to think so, Guilder.”

“You also could come to no other conclusion if you took the trouble to investigate.”

Drene smiled:

“Morals are no more than folk-ways—merely mental condition consequent upon custom. Spiritual beliefs are radically dependant upon folkways and the resultant physical and mental condition of the human brain which creates everything that has been and that is to be.”

“Physiology has proven that no idea, no thought, ever originated within the concrete and physical brain.”

“I’ve read of those experiments.”

“Then you can’t ignore a conclusion.”

“I haven’t reached a conclusion. Meanwhile, I have my own beliefs.”