Fr. Corn. Bah, you stupid Anabaptist, did Christ then come from heaven into Mary with flesh and blood, with skin and hair, entrails and all, as he ascended up to heaven? Bah, what do you say of this, you great, stupid, awkward ass?
Herm. I do not say this; but I say that the Word came from heaven, and became flesh in Mary, as John writes in his first chapter.
Fr. Corn. And we Catholics say that the most pure blood of Mary became flesh, in spite of your miserable teeth, see.
Herm. This defiance to my teeth is a small matter; but this defiance to the holy Scriptures is a great blasphemy.
Fr. Corn. Ha, you damned Anabaptist, I do not blaspheme the holy Scriptures; but you revile the holy, blessed, pure virgin Mary. Bah, I am surprised that you do not say, that she conceived her son Christ of her husband Joseph, as your hedge-preachers preach in the Gruthuysbosch; is it not a fine thing?
Herm. You wrong us greatly, that you say this of us; for we believe as Matthew writes in his first chapter: “Joseph took his wife, and knew her not till she had brought forth her first born son.”
Fr. Corn Ah, bah! did Joseph know her afterwards, eh?
Herm. It matters not to me whether he knew her afterwards, or not.
Fr. Corn. Indeed? and do you then not believe in the perpetual virginity of the blessed virgin Mary? let us hear now.
Herm. We find nothing said in the Scriptures, concerning her perpetual virginity.