Mr. Wheeler. Todd Shipyards?

Mr. Robel. Yes, sir.

Mr. Wheeler. Are they engaged in defense work or defense contracts?

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Robel. I think so, indirectly. I don’t know how they get their contracts.

Mr. Wheeler. Do you have a security clearance?

Mr. Robel. No, sir.

Mr. Wheeler. Have you been denied security clearance?

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Robel. No, sir.