Mr. Robel. It is my understanding legally that I may waive my rights by answering one of these questions, and I don’t wish to waive my right to invoke the fifth amendment.

Mr. Moulder. You certainly were not waiving your rights when you stated a moment ago you were employed and where you were employed.

Now if you belong to some labor organization in connection with your employment there is nothing in that connection certainly that would tend to incriminate you, if you are employed or in legitimate employment.

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Robel. We are getting into complicated rights of waiver, and it is my understanding legally that I may refuse to answer.

Mr. Moulder. Do you decline to answer under the fifth amendment?

Mr. Robel. Under the fifth amendment, yes, sir.

Mr. Wheeler. Are you a member of the International Association of Machinists, A. F. of L.?

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Robel. I must invoke the fifth amendment, as previously, and refuse to answer that.