(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Carlson. I am a machinist.

Mr. Wheeler. Being a machinist, are you affiliated with any union, or are you a member of any union?

Mr. Carlson. Because the answer to that question may tend to incriminate me, I invoke the fifth amendment of the United States Constitution, and refuse to answer it.

Mr. Wheeler. Is it not true that you are it member of the machinists union, A. F. of L.?

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Carlson. Mr. Chairman, I would like to explain that there are 3 branches of the machinists union in the city of Seattle.

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Carlson. Which one do you mean?

Mr. Wheeler. Any one of the three.