Mr. Kroener. Again I wish to invoke the fifth amendment.

Mr. Wheeler. Is it a fact that the three individuals I just mentioned, along with you and other people, were members of a cell within the machinists union?

Mr. Kroener. Again I wish to invoke the fifth amendment on the grounds of self-incrimination.

Mr. Moulder. Do you have any knowledge as to the action taken by a machinists union referred to by Mr. Wheeler in expelling members from that union where there is evidence of their Communist affiliations?

Mr. Kroener. I believe there may be some such program going on, but I am not too well acquainted with it. So I couldn’t answer it too clearly.

Mr. Moulder. Is the reason why you refuse to answer because of the fear you might be expelled from the union?

(The witness confers with his counsel.)

Mr. Kroener. Again I wish to invoke the fifth amendment on the ground that the answer may tend to incriminate me.

Mr. Moulder. Do you have knowledge and information that the union referred to is exercising its efforts to rid its ranks of persons who are Communists?

Mr. Kroener. Again I wish to invoke the fifth amendment.