I can’t remember this milk fund in 1940, or whatever it was, but I presume it was to raise funds to provide milk for prisoners, labor prisoners, children of labor prisoners, and so on. I don’t remember specifically about——

Now, as far as my particular situation was concerned, the way I felt about these things, I mean for instance whether it was Mooney or whoever it might have been, I made up my mind so far as my judgment was concerned, what I thought was right and what I thought was wrong.

Mr. Velde. Certainly you have that privilege, as we all do.

Mr. O’Connell. And I worked to accomplish what I thought was right.

Mr. Velde. I am not questioning your privilege, your right, to make up your own mind. I am questioning the facts, your statement that you did not know.

Mr. O’Connell. About the best way to explain it to you, I came out of a district, I was born and raised in Butte. Butte is a mining town——

Mr. Velde. But you had been to Washington, D. C. Even before you ran for Congress you had been here.

Mr. O’Connell. Yes, I had gone to school here, yes.

In that particular day when I went to school here, as I remember, there wasn’t any great discussion about Communists or Socialists or anything of that kind. When I went to school here in that day, I was in the——

Mr. Velde. Mr. Chairman, I do not see that this argument is getting us anywhere.