Mr. O’Connell. I knew him at that time.
Mr. Velde. You still know him, do you not?
Mr. O’Connell. Well, I think if he walked in the room I don’t know whether I would recognize him. I would say it has probably been 10 or almost 15 years.
Mr. Velde. At that time he was head of the Methodist Federation of Social Action. I presume you know that, do you not?
Mr. O’Connell. My impression was that he was head of this organization.
Mr. Velde. Will you answer my question? Did you know that he was head of the Methodist Federation for Social Action at that time?
Mr. O’Connell. No, I really didn’t know whether he was or not. My impression was that it was somebody by the name of Jack McMichael that was head of that.
Mr. Velde. If my memory serves me correctly, it was not until after that time. It was 1942. Am I right, that Jack McMichael became head of the Methodist Federation for Social Action?
Mr. O’Connell. This was quite a while ago.
Mr. Velde. What contact did you have with Harry Ward as far as the American League for Peace and Democracy was concerned?