Mr. O’Connell. I could distinguish if we had the time, as far as these people were concerned, with reference to the Progressive Party as it existed when I was there.

(Whereupon, a short recess was taken.)

(The committee members present when the hearing reconvened were Messrs. Willis and Velde.)

Mr. Willis. The subcommittee will come to order.

Proceed, Mr. Tavenner.

Mr. Tavenner. Mr. O’Connell, you told us a few minutes ago that Hugh DeLacy had not been connected with your organization; that is, the Progressive Party.

Mr. O’Connell. No; I did not say that he——

Mr. Tavenner. You said he was not in an executive position.

Mr. O’Connell. He was not in an executive position.

Mr. Tavenner. Was he an organizer employed by you?