Mr. Tavenner. I understand.

Mr. O’Connell. Is this within the scope of the hearing?

Mr. Velde. The Robert Marshall Foundation?

Mr. O’Connell. Yes.

Mr. Velde. I think it would be.

Mr. Doyle. We will take a short recess.

(Brief recess.)

(Committee members present after recess: Representatives Doyle and Scherer.)

Mr. Doyle. The committee will come to order and let the record show that the chairman of the full committee, Mr. Walter, appointed a different subcommittee to continue this hearing today, consisting of Mr. Moulder, Mr. Doyle, and Mr. Scherer, of Ohio, and that Mr. Scherer and Mr. Doyle are both present, a legal majority of the new subcommittee.

Mr. O’Connell, will you please rise and be sworn again.