Mr. Tavenner. Did he play any part in the solicitation of these grants?

Mr. O’Connell. As far as I was concerned, he didn’t at least to me. If his name was on the stationery, I got a copy of the application and all that, but——

Mr. Tavenner. I am not certain that he was its president at the time those grants were made, but he may have been.

Mr. O’Connell. I don’t know.

Mr. Tavenner. During the same period, according to the committee’s information, grants totaling $3,250 were made to the Federated Press.

Mr. O’Connell. That is correct.

Mr. Tavenner. And subsequently increased to a total of $29,200.

Mr. O’Connell. I don’t know whether those totals are correct, but I know grants were made consistently to the Federated Press.

Mr. Tavenner. Were the grants sufficiently large to make these figures within reason?

Mr. O’Connell. I would say they are. They never got a large grant each year. I think they got small grants like $3,500 or something of that kind. It could have totaled $29,000 over the years.